Horrors of Abortion

Boxes of baby heads, body parts sales shown in Planned Parenthood films

The eighth video in the ongoing controversy over Planned Parenthood’s sale of aborted fetal body parts shows the CEO of StemExpress, LLC, a major buyer of fetal tissue from Planned Parenthood, admitting the company gets “a lot” of intact fetuses, suggesting “another 50 livers a week” would not be enough, and agreeing abortion clinics should profit from the sale: StemExpress is a for-profit biotech supply company that has been partnered with Planned Parenthood clinics across the country to purchase human fetal parts since its founding in 2010. StemExpress’ Medical Director, Dr. Ronald Berman, is an abortion doctor for Planned Parenthood Mar Monte.

In the video, actors posing as another human biologics company meet with StemExpress CEO Cate Dyer, plus Vice President of Corporate Development and Legal Affairs Kevin Cooksy, and Procurement Manager Megan Barr. StemExpress and the actors are discussing a potential partnership to supply extra fetal body parts to each other.

“So many physicians are like, ‘Oh I can totally procure tissue,’ and they can’t,” said Dyer, seeming to indicate that abortion doctors must do the procedure in a special way to obtain useable fetal parts. Federal law requires that no alteration in the timing or method of abortion be done for the purposes of fetal tissue collection.

“What about intact specimens?” asks one of the actors.

“Oh yeah, I mean if you have intact cases, which we’ve done a lot, we sometimes ship those back to our lab in its entirety,” said Dyer.

“Case” is the clinical term for an abortion procedure. An “intact case” refers to an intact abortion with a whole fetus.

“The entire case?” asked an actor.

“Yeah, yeah,” said Dyer.

“The procurement for us, I mean it can go really sideways, depending on the facility, and then our samples are destroyed,” she explained past botched fetal dissections, “so we started bringing them back even to manage it from a procurement expert standpoint.”

Feticidal chemicals like digoxin cannot be used to kill the fetus in a tissue procurement case, so a fetus delivered intact for organ harvesting is likely to be a born-alive infant.

“What would make your lab happy?” asked one of the actors.

“Another 50 livers a week,” said Dyer. “We’re working with almost like triple digit number clinics and we still need more.”

She later said, “Planned Parenthood has volume, because they are a volume institution.”

Dyer also agrees that payments to abortion clinics for fetal body parts should be financially beneficial to them.

“Do you feel like there are clinics out there that have been burned, that feel like they’re doing all this work for research and it hasn’t been profitable for them?” she asked.

“I haven’t seen that.”

StemExpress publishes a flyer for Planned Parenthood clinics that promises “financial profits” and “fiscal rewards” for clinics that supply aborted fetal tissue. It is endorsed by Planned Parenthood Mar Monte Chief Medical Officer Dr. Dorothy Furgerson.

The sale or purchase of human fetal tissue is a federal felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison or a fine of up to $500,000.00. The Sacramento Business Journal reported in June that StemExpress has an annual revenue of $4.5 million.

The video is the eighth released by The Center for Medical Progress in its investigative journalism study of Planned Parenthood’s sale of aborted baby parts. “StemExpress is the ‘weakest link’ that unravels Planned Parenthood’s baby parts chain – they readily admit the profit-motive that Planned Parenthood and their proxies have in supplying aborted baby parts,” said David Daleiden, project lead for CMP. “Congress and law enforcement should immediately seize all fetal tissue files from StemExpress and all communications and contracts with Planned Parenthood. The evidence that Planned Parenthood profits from the sale of aborted baby parts is now overwhelming, and not one more dime of taxpayer money should go to their corrupt and fraudulent criminal enterprise.”

Though the first U.S. Senate vote on Planned Parenthood failed to bring to the floor a bill to defund America’s largest abortion provider, leaders in government and churches have said believers must continue the fight.

Sen. James Lankford, a Southern Baptist and cosponsor of the bill to defund Planned Parenthood, told Baptist Press he is trying “to build a coalition large enough to be able to actually get this defunded.” Such coalition building involves finding Democrat legislators who “have not made that campaign pledge that they will always protect Planned Parenthood” and who “can actually have a reasonable conversation about life and about children.”

Lankford asked pro-life citizens to pray, talk with America’s youth about life and support crisis pregnancy centers while he and other pro-life legislators work to break Planned Parenthood’s hold in Washington.

Southern Baptists were among an estimated 50,000-75,000 pro-life activists who protested at Planned Parenthood clinics across America Aug. 22, calling for the defunding of the nation’s largest abortion provider.

Protestors in more than 350 cities across 47 states, according to statistics reported by LifeNews.com, joined what The Washington Post called “the largest-ever rally against” Planned Parenthood.

A website, www.centerformedicalprogress.org, contains a petition calling for a criminal investigation of Planned Parenthood.

The petition states, “I call for Congressional Hearings and Investigation of Planned Parenthood’s illegal sale of aborted fetal body parts and the illegal and dangerous abortion procedures Planned Parenthood uses to harvest body parts. I call for an immediate moratorium on taxpayer funding of Planned Parenthood pending the outcome of the investigation.”

Planned Parenthood blames conservative politics for the videos and ignore the spotlight they have placed on the horrific practice of killing unborn babies.

“These past few weeks have shown us that anti-abortion extremists will stop at nothing to block women’s access to basic reproductive health care,” said Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood Federation of America. “It’s time the far right came to terms with political reality: attacks on women’s health are deeply unpopular, and put millions of lives at risk. The American people stand with Planned Parenthood. We know what happens when the out-of-touch extremists in Congress try to push their anti-woman agenda above everything else — the American people reject them.”

Video Recaps


Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Senior Director of Medical Services, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, describes how Planned Parenthood sells the body parts of aborted fetuses, and admitting she uses partial-birth abortions to supply intact body parts.

In the video, Nucatola is at a business lunch with actors posing as buyers from a human biologics company. The buyers ask Nucatola, “How much of a difference can that actually make, if you know kind of what’s expected, or what we need?”

“It makes a huge difference,” Nucatola said. “I’d say a lot of people want liver. And for that reason, most providers will do this case under ultrasound guidance, so they’ll know where they’re putting their forceps. The kind of rate-limiting step of the procedure is calvarium. Calvarium – the head – is basically the biggest part.”

Nucatola said, “We’ve been very good at getting heart, lung, liver, because we know that, so I’m not gonna crush that part, I’m gonna basically crush below, I’m gonna crush above, and I’m gonna see if I can get it all intact.”

“And with the calvarium, in general, some people will actually try to change the presentation so that it’s not vertex,” she said. “So if you do it starting from the breech presentation, there’s dilation that happens as the case goes on, and often, the last step, you can evacuate an intact calvarium at the end.”


Planned Parenthood Federation of America’s Medical Directors’ Council President, Dr. Mary Gatter, haggles over payments for intact fetal specimens and offering to use a “less crunchy technique” to get more intact body parts.

Nucatola admits to using partial-birth abortions to get intact parts and suggesting a price range of $30 to $100 per specimen.

Gatter suggests $100 per specimen is not enough and said, “Let me just figure out what others are getting, and if this is in the ballpark, then it’s fine, if it’s still low, then we can bump it up. I want a Lamborghini.”

Gatter also suggests modifying the abortion procedure to get more intact fetuses: “I wouldn’t object to asking Ian, who’s our surgeon who does the cases, to use an IPAS [manual vacuum aspirator] at that gestational age in order to increase the odds that he’s going to get an intact specimen.”


Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains’ Vice President and Medical Director, Dr. Savita Ginde, negotiated a fetal body parts deal, agreeing multiple times to illicit pricing per body part harvested, and suggesting ways to avoid legal consequences.

Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains (PPRM) is a wealthy, multi-state Planned Parenthood affiliate that does over 10,000 abortions per year. PPRM has a contract to supply aborted fetal tissue to Colorado State University in Fort Collins.

Since PPRM does not use digoxin or other feticide in its 2nd trimester procedures, any intact deliveries before an abortion are potentially born-alive infants under federal law.

“We’d have to do a little bit of training with the providers or something to make sure that they don’t crush” fetal organs during 2nd trimester abortions, said Ginde, brainstorming ways to ensure the abortion doctors at PPRM provide usable fetal organs.

Ginde suggested ways for Planned Parenthood to cover-up its liability for the sale of aborted body parts. “Putting it under ‘research’ gives us a little bit of an overhang over the whole thing,” Ginde said. “If you have someone in a really anti state who’s going to be doing this for you, they’re probably going to get caught.”


The Director of Research for Planned Parenthood Gulf Coast, Melissa Farrell, advertises the Texas Planned Parenthood branch’s track record of fetal tissue sales, including its ability to deliver fully intact fetuses.

Farrell summarized her affiliate’s approach to fetal tissue payments by saying, “If we alter our process, and we are able to obtain intact fetal cadavers, we can make it part of the budget that any dissections are this, and splitting the specimens into different shipments is this. It’s all just a matter of line items.”

“Where we probably have an edge over other organizations, our organization has been doing research for many, many years,” said Farrell. When researchers need a specific part from the aborted fetus, Farrell said, “We bake that into our contract, and our protocol, that we follow this, so we deviate from our standard in order to do that.”


Cate Dyer, CEO of StemExpress, LLC, admits her company gets “a lot” of intact fetuses, suggesting “another 50 livers a week” would not be enough, and agreeing abortion clinics should profit from the sale.

“What would make your lab happy?” asks one of the actors.

“Another 50 livers a week,” said Dyer. “We’re working with almost like triple digit number clinics and we still need more.”

She later said, “Planned Parenthood has volume, because they are a volume institution.”

Dyer also talked about shipping boxes of baby heads to labs, making sure the eyes are closed.

“And their lab techs freak out, and have meltdowns, and so it’s just like, yeah,” Dyer said. “I think, quite frankly, that’s why a lot of researchers ultimately, some of them want to get into other things. They want to look at bone marrow, they want to look at adipose- sort of adult human, kind of adult-based sampling. They want to avoid publishing a paper that says it was derived from fetal tissue.”